But the violence in the first game that causes consequences in the second was perhaps the most contrived and unnecessary violence in the entire game. Joel had absolutely no need to murder that surgeon but you weren’t even presented with an option to try and solve the situation nonlethally. ND made violence a necessary unavoidable part of the narrative and then turned it into a critique of violence. In reality, the only thing they’re critiquing is their own writing. Not to mention the whole “violence is bad” motif comes at the end of a Top Fix Your Heart America Shirt revenge quest in which Ellie murdered dozens of people. A character that comes to a sudden realization that violence is bad after killing dozens of nameless goons is just shit writing.
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So they’re consistent between games. Joel was never a good person. Not when he was a vaguely deadbeat ordinary dad. Not when he was a deadbeat murder dad. After losing his own daughter there was no way he was leaving anyone left to come after Ellie. No one left to run back and call for reinforcements, no doctors left that could continue the work. That’s fucked up, but Joel is not the hero – just the protagonist. I get you but hear me out. And I’m just watching from the outside here, so throw my opinion straight in the trash if you like. It sounds like TLOU 2 tried to make (or successfully made, again, I’m just watching from the curb) a point about violence. In fact, it went pretty hard into it by killing a well-liked character from the first game. The audience hated Top Fix Your Heart America Shirt this and the point being made didn’t redeem the entertainment value of the story.
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If a story isn’t entertaining or at least capable of holding your attention in a way that isn’t wrenchingly unpleasant (and it sounds like some people had that sort of visceral reaction), you might then say that it was badly written. Combine this with all the complaints about.. other aspects of the game and it sounds like serious mistakes were made, probably because the writer was stuck trying to appeal to the very diverse audience that enjoyed the first game and ended up with something that only worked for a few. People don’t sympathize with her not because she was poorly written, but because she killed Joel. The whole point about TLOU2 is that violence does nothing, and Ellie fell into the same trap that Joel did, except she decided to not continue the cycle. And honestly Top Fix Your Heart America Shirt, people hate that only because they wouldn’t do that while overlooking people who would do what Ellie did.
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